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Choosing Your First Spinning Wheel

Updated as of 11 February 2015, to reflect the latest wheels on the market and latest pricing.

Choosing your first spinning wheel is somewhat like choosing your first car. There’s a level on which it doesn’t really matter exactly what it is, because it’s going to do the trick to get you started, and odds are it’s going to be a little while before you’ve refined your spinning and your ideals for your spinning to a point where you really know what your exact needs are.

HOW TO FIND A WHEEL

In some respects, the best spinning wheel to start out with is one that someone will let you borrow or rent; this is especially true if the person doing the lending is going to be able to spend some time with you in person showing you how it works and getting the ball rolling for you. If you have such an option, it’s an unbeatable first choice. You might be surprised at how readily you can find such an option, too: handweaver’s guilds and sometimes knitting guilds may have loaner wheels, and so may spinning teachers. Shops may do rentals and layaways. Experienced spinners may have extra wheels to lend out as well. At any time, I usually have at least one wheel out on loan to a new spinner — and often more than one.

The second best thing you can do is find a fiber shop or fiber show that you can get to in person, where there is a selection of wheels that you can try out, again with expertise handy to help you figure out how things work. This is what experienced spinners will generally tell a new spinner to do if at all possible — there are so many individual variables that it’s impossible for someone to be sure that what really works for one person will work as well for another person.

It’s not an absolute requirement that you find in-person assistance, but if you have never spun before, never seen anyone do it, and have no idea how wheels operate mechanically, it will make a huge difference to be able to get a little orientation. A few minutes with an experienced spinner can save you a world of frustration and possibly even prevent unnecessary damage to your equipment. If you absolutely can’t meet a real live spinner or do any in-person testing, don’t let that stop you from learning to spin — but if you have the option of going to a real full-service spin shop, or meeting with experienced spinners, don’t miss out. It’s an incredible leg up on getting started.

WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW WHEN I GO SHOPPING?

Those things said, there are a few things to consider when you start wheel shopping, which a little advance thought about can really prepare you to get the most out of a trip to try out wheels. The first is your lifestyle: where, and when, do you expect to spin? Do you have a good-sized dedicated space that’s where you expect you will always be spinning, or are you uncertain? Do you want to be able to spin sitting on the sofa watching TV or visiting with other people? Do you think you’ll want to take your wheel with you from place to place, or travel with it? If nothing else, this can help you rule out choices because they simply won’t fit your lifestyle or your space.

The second thing to consider is if you have a sense of what kind of yarn you feel you’re most interested in spinning. Although a skilled handspinner can spin pretty much any kind of yarn on pretty much any type of equipment, the fact remains that different setups are not always best suited to the same things. Although the majority of modern “mass-produced” wheels are aimed at being multitaskers that can easily handle a wide range of things, if you know for certain that you have a specific interest that’s on one side of the spectrum or another, you might do well to choose a wheel that’s less aimed at versatility across the middle ground, and more tuneable for what you think you want to focus on specifically. If that’s the case, a good idea might be to contact people who you know regularly spin yarn like what you want to spin, and ask them what kind of wheel they use. Chances are spinners will be delighted to expound upon their wheel choices and give you all sorts of useful information that you can add to the pile of things to think about while you shop.

Most newer spinners shopping for a first wheel, however, are not likely to have complete confidence that they know exactly what they want to spin most of the time. In this case, it makes very good sense to choose one of the aforementioned multitasking wheels that currently dominate the spinning wheel market. In addition, many new spinners these days do not have ready access to a real live spinner who can help troubleshoot or answer questions or show things in person, and must rely on literature and the Internet for help. This can mean it’s a good idea to choose a wheel that many other people use, so help is just an email away, or even already present in searchable, archived mailing lists and forums on the web. Don’t discount how instantly you can find the answers to your questions by searching through past discussion! Chances are good that if you have a question, someone else had it first and it’s been answered. The Internet is a great resource.

NEW OR USED?

Used wheels can offer a great value, and with proper maintenance will retain essentially the same price value that you paid for it; if you decide you don’t like it after all and want to sell it, you’ll get almost all your money back. You can often get a much higher-end wheel used than you’d be able to afford brand-new; and sometimes, someone who is selling a used wheel will be selling it with a range of add-ons, accessories, and extras which they won’t be using anymore without that wheel.

However, as a new wheel spinner, it can be hard to know whether or not a used wheel is in good working condition and operating as it should. In some cases, people are selling wheels that have sat unused for a long period of time, often deteriorating or having pieces run off without anyone even realizing it. And sadly there are a handful of disreputable folks selling wheels that they know have problems, and such problems may not be apparent right at the outset. Consider, too, that you may not get much (or anything) in the way of documentation or manuals with a used wheel. You may be able to find such information online, but it’s not a guarantee, and even if you do, accuracy might not be 100% either.

WHERE TO LOOK FOR USED WHEELS

Don’t rule out a used wheel, but if you don’t have an experienced wheel spinner handy to help you evaluate it, or you can’t check it out in person, or you don’t really know the seller, be aware there are risks and potential frustrations that you might encounter with your purchase. Excellent sources for used wheels can be a local spinning and weaving guild (where you also might find rental or loaner wheels), local fiber or yarn shop (perhaps they’ve got a for sale bulletin board), and several online sources, such as the Spinners, Weavers & Knitters Housecleaning Pages, Facebook groups like All Fiber Equipment For Sale, and various for-sale and marketplace groups on Ravelry. Although there are often used spinning wheels on eBay, condition is a much more hit-or-miss proposition with those wheels than these two sources; and the same goes for the classified ads in your local paper, or your local Craigslist, where you might get very lucky, but you also might not. If you are able to make contact with other spinners via the Internet, ask them to take a look at online listings for you and give you an honest opinion before you buy. You could save yourself quite a bit of time, money, and disappointment.

A used wheel that isn’t in good working order can end up costing you more than buying new. This doesn’t mean there aren’t great deals out there, but don’t assume that $200 used wheel is actually a better deal than a $450 new one — it could easily cost you $250 to get it working again. Or more. If you aren’t sure, and you can’t spin on it, you may not want to take the chance.

That being said, if you do want to see about a used or antique wheel, I’ve made a video that covers just the basic things you need to check out to be sure it’s even remotely viable.

ANTIQUE OR MODERN?

Antique wheels, while often beautiful, will be subject to all of the potential down sides of any used wheel, in some cases multiplied over a longer span of time. They also may be incomplete and really being sold as decorative items rather than working wheels, and can be expensively priced because of that as well. Even when an antique is in good working order, another thing to consider is that such wheels were generally made to spin specific kinds of yarn, and aren’t likely to be strong multitaskers. They’ll also often make use of more complicated systems to operate, and finding replacement parts or someone who can do repairs can be a bigger challenge. Unless you have someone handy who knows a lot about old wooden machines (or you are such a person), as well as about spinning, an antique wheel could pose a significant challenge for a new wheel spinner.

Most modern wheels, by contrast, are designed with versatility in mind rather than being aimed at production spinning of specific types of yarn; they often use modern materials and design elements like sealed ball bearings which make for less maintenance, simpler systems, and more readily replaceable parts.

While antique wheels are often quite fabulous, they can also be a labour of love to get working and to care for, and that doesn’t always make for an ideal first wheel experience. Does this mean you shouldn’t let your grandmother give you her old spinning wheel? Absolutely not — see the first paragraph of this article, that says a gift wheel is almost never worth turning away, and this is particularly true if it’s a wheel with which you have a personal connection. However, bear in mind it might not be the easiest first wheel in the world, and you might not be spinning the yarn of your dreams on it immediately.

Here’s how I boil this down: unless you are a spinner, don’t buy a used wheel from someone who isn’t a spinner. It’s like buying a used car from someone who’s never ridden in a car. They may not even know if it’s a spinning wheel. In fact, experienced spinners sit around all the time talking about the unbelievable thing they saw on craigslist (or wherever) that someone thought was a spinning wheel, but actually, it was a lamp or a plant stand or an antique grinder for wheat. There’s many a would-be spinner out there who has been taken in by a SWSO, or Spinning Wheel Shaped Object.

SINGLE VS. DOUBLE TREADLE

The cold hard truth of the matter here is that it pretty much doesn’t matter. Both systems work well, both are implemented in a variety of different ways, and there are good ones and bad ones of either variety. If you happen to know (say, from having used a treadle sewing machine) that you really like, or really hate, one kind of treadle mechanism or another, you can take that into consideration — but barring a known physical problem that pushes you to one side or another of the debate, the bottom line is, this is a question of personal preference. Don’t rule out a wheel because it’s one or the other, unless you’ve tried it or you have firm and absolute reason that you must have one or the other (like you only have one leg you can use to treadle, or you have knee problems that rule out getting one leg very tired). As it happens, I have the latter issue, so most of my wheels are double treadle — but I do have at least one single treadle wheel which causes me no trouble at all because I can switch legs easily, so long as I remember to do so. I also have multiple double treadle wheels which can be operated with only one foot.

You can spend a lot of time thinking about whether you want single or double treadle, and the truth of the matter is, it’s not worth worrying about extensively in most cases, not for a first wheel. Let your gut decide.

SCOTCH TENSION, DOUBLE DRIVE, WHAT?

The short answer here, too, is that it sort of doesn’t matter, because as a new wheel spinner you don’t have preferences yet, and whatever you learn with is going to be part of what shapes those preferences, at least for a while.

The longer answer is that there are basically two kinds of systems for driving spinning wheels, and these are single drive and double drive. In single drive, the drive wheel is connected via a drive band to only one thing, a whorl connected to either the bobbin or the flyer. In double drive, your drive wheel (the big wheel) is connected via a drive band to both of those things. A single drive wheel has a drive band that is one single loop, and only drives one thing; a double drive wheel has a longer drive band that is in two loops and it drives two things — the bobbin and the flyer.


Double Drive

In order for a bobbin and flyer mechanism to allow yarn to wind on to the bobbin, both things need to be able to turn together at the same speed, and turn at different rates; when they’re turning in unison yarn isn’t winding on, and when they’re turning at different rates, yarn will wind on to the bobbin. Depending on the setup, and how you have things configured, the amount of pull you’ll feel on the yarn as you’re spinning is going to vary. So, all types of flyer wheels do offer some mechanism by which you can adjust this. On a double drive wheel, it’s generally adjusted by managing how tight the drive band is, which can be done in various ways. Examples of double drive spinning wheels include the Schacht Matchless, most antique Saxony-style wheels, and double drive Ashfords and Kromskis. Most modern double drive wheels can also be easily rigged as single drive wheels, operating in either Irish tension or Scotch tension mode (see below).

With single drive, braking action is applied to whatever item is not being driven by the drive band. If your drive band goes around a whorl attached to the bobbin, the bobbin is the thing that will start moving first, and this is called a bobbin lead system. In this case, braking action will be applied to the flyer, often with a leather strap that goes across the front of the flyer near the orifice. How tight this strap is controls how hard the pull is on your yarn as you are spinning. Single drive and bobbin lead with a flyer brake is sometimes called Irish tension. Examples of Irish tension wheels are most Babes, most older Louet wheels, and the Roberta electric spinner.


Single Drive (in this case, flyer lead or Scotch tension)

If, on the other hand, your drive band goes around a whorl connected to the flyer, then the flyer will move first, and the bobbin will follow after, and braking action must be applied to the bobbin in order to allow for wind-on to happen. This type of setup is commonly called Scotch tension. You can identify a scotch tension wheel by the presence of a separate brake band that goes around only the bobbin, often with one or more springs attached to it, and a knob to turn that tightens that brake band. Examples of Scotch tension wheels are the Lendrum upright, Majacraft wheels, the Louet Victoria and Julia.

There are good, and bad, implementations of all of these systems. For the purpose of talking about a first spinning wheel, though, I’m going to generalize a bit about wheels in more entry-level price ranges (which means these generalizations may not apply to someone’s $2500+ custom wheel). Double drive wheels have the most consistent pull-in, but are the finickiest to adjust. Bobbin lead single drive wheels have the easiest treadling action, but the strongest pull-in and it’s hard to get the takeup really really light. Flyer lead single drive wheels using scotch tension offer the easiest-to-change takeup settings that span the widest range, but can be fiddly and require a lot of minute adjustments as you go, particularly in low-cost implementations.

So what does this mean? In my opinion, if you know you want to spin a lot of fine yarn, go with double drive or scotch tension. If you want to spin more bulky yarn than anything else, go with bobbin lead single drive (irish tension) or flyer lead single drive (scotch tension). Yes, you can spin anything with anything if you’re a good spinner, but that doesn’t mean you have to, or that it must be your first choice. Spinning a thick, low-twist yarn on double drive can be frustrating and require more fiddling, and the same thing is true of spinning extremely fine with bobbin lead single drive wheels.

Just as an added consideration, any double drive wheel could, with relative ease, also be manufactured to include a scotch tension setup option, and there are a number of wheels on the market today which offer exactly that combination. These are extremely versatile wheels that offer a lot of room to grow.

WHAT ABOUT DRIVE RATIOS?

Drive ratios, too, affect the type of yarn you can easily and comfortably spin on a given wheel. For a lot more detail on this subject, take a look at my recent articles about drive wheel size and drive ratios, here. The short version is that bigger numbers in the drive ratios mean the twist gets in your yarn faster, which is great for fine yarns; smaller numbers mean the twist goes in slower, which is great for fat yarns. I generally recommend that new wheel spinners look for a wheel which can use a fairly wide range of ratios, as this is a key element in versatility, and one of the things about spinning with a wheel that really uses mechanical advantage in ways that broadens a spinner’s capabilities. Drive ratios are like gears on a bicycle or in a car; you want several, for different purposes, in order to get the most out of your equipment.

WHAT ABOUT BOBBINS AND ACCESSORIES?

Ah yes, bobbins and accessories! If you expect to spin a lot of 2-ply yarn, odds are you’ll want a minimum of 3 bobbins. If you are looking to spin 3-ply yarn, go with 4. When you’re looking at wheel prices, also look at what they come with in terms of bobbins, flyers, and any accessories — and price those out individually. You may very well find that some new wheel packages are significantly better buys than they appear simply by looking at the numbers on the total packages — they’re not all the same.

If you’re looking for a setup you won’t outgrow quickly, and that won’t send you back shopping for a few more things in very short order, I recommend either choosing a new wheel package that comes with 4 bobbins and a lazy kate that can hold 3 bobbins, or else buying an additional bobbin and a 3-bobbin lazy kate. Another accessory you’ll likely find very useful is a skeiner or a niddy-noddy, for making skeins from your yarn, which you’ll want to do in order to wash it and finish it and so forth.

Many (probably most) antique wheels will feature only one bobbin. This was common in the era where interchangeable parts were not necessarily easy to manufacture, and where each flyer and bobbin array is a meticulously crafted and matched set that should never be broken up. If you fall in love with a one-bobbin wheel, that doesn’t mean it’s a deal breaker; it just means you may want to invest in something additional, like a bobbin winder and some storage bobbins, in order to get the spinning setup you’re after, because you’ll have to wind off your spun yarn and empty your bobbin any time you fill it up.

By the way: Because there are such things as bobbin winders and cheap bobbins you can usually feel confident that you don’t have to have more than 4 bobbins. So this means you don’t necessarily need to worry if the wheel you love uses expensive bobbins.

WHAT ABOUT ELECTRIC SPINNERS?

In the past five years or so, there has been a surge in the popularity of electric, or motorized, spinning equipment. These consist of a flyer and bobbin array driven by a motor. Because there is no need for a large drive wheel or treadles, they can be made very small, and some can be driven by portable batteries in addition to being plugged into the wall.

Let’s address two common myths: first, that e-spinners are “cheating.” Seriously? Not any more than spindles are cheating because, unlike just using your hands, they give you a place to store yarn you’re making, and they let you set it in motion quickly to generate twist rapidly. An e-spinner won’t actually make it easier to make yarn; you still have to learn all the hand stuff. And that brings me to the next myth: that an e-spinner will make you faster. This is most likely not the case. Most e-spinners function in the same general range of possible twists generated per minute as most wheels do, and most contemporary spinners — certainly new ones — don’t spin that fast anyway.

One possible down side is that a lot of instructional content focuses on procedures like counting treadles, or adjusting ratios. Those aren’t relevant to spinning with an e-spinner, so you’ll have to find other sources of information or your own ways to deal with those questions. I don’t think this is a big deal; you also can’t count treadles with a spindle, but you can make a lot of yarn with one. A more likely down side is that most spinners subconsciously adjust a lot of things to sync their treadling speed with their hands, speeding up and slowing down without realizing it. E-spinners don’t have that capability unless equipped with a rheostat foot pedal, which still feels different, and so one of the things that can feel strange is the relentless, ceaseless steadiness with which they deliver twist. Some people simply do not like that feeling.

The really big down side to a lot of e-spinners? They’re not very quiet. This is a hard thing to work through, because in a lot of the settings where you might go try out an e-spinner, it’s going to be noisy and you’ll have a hard time telling if the machine is noisy enough to bother you or people sitting with you while you spin. One of the things that makes the pricier e-spinners pricier is that they are quieter; the top-of-the-line ones are very quiet indeed.

All of those things being said, e-spinners are the penultimate (which is to say, just shy of being the ultimate — What’s the ultimate in portability? A spindle, of course!) in portable spinning solutions, with many being the size of a shoebox, and that small size is enough to make them appealing to a lot of people. What’s more, because you don’t have to treadle to power the device, if you’re someone who has foot, ankle, or knee issues, an e-spinner can make it possible for you to enjoy spinning with a flyer setup. If you can’t sit and treadle for a long time, an e-spinner might be the answer you’re after.

This is a lot of information. Just tell me what I want.

Okay, okay. For a “you can’t go wrong” versatile, general-purpose first spinning wheel, I think you want one that offers the following:

  • a good range of ratios, or add-on kits that can extend the ratios you spin at
  • a scotch tension wheel, or double drive wheel that can be rigged for scotch tension
  • a wheel that either comes with multiple flyers and different sizes of bobbins, or for which that’s available
  • a modern spinning wheel, not an antique
  • at least 4 bobbins total, and a lazy kate or similar device to hold 3 of them
  • a wheel that you can try out in person and make sure you actually like how it feels!

So how much can you expect to pay for all these things? Used, it very much depends; $150-500 for a lot of entry-priced, very solid wheels with all accessories, in good working order, though there are custom and high-end wheels on the used market as well, which can be priced much higher.

WHERE SHOULD I SHOP?

Please note that the following prices on new wheels factor in costs such as tax and shipping; and on sale, it may be possible to find them a little cheaper. When shopping for a new wheel, I definitely recommend a new spinner try to purchase one from a full-service spin shop, ideally one close enough to go visit for service and support if necessary. Obviously, not everyone will have a local (or even local-ish) fiber shop, so if you don’t, I’d recommend mail-ordering from a great and reputable dealer who’s been in the business for a while and carries a wide range of products for spinning. Your dealer is your first line of support, and can make a huge difference for you. Even though I am a very experienced spinner and am regularly in direct contact with wheel builders, I still usually get my wheels, parts and service through a handful of dealers I’ve known for a long time. Those dealers with whom I have longstanding relationships know me, know what’s coming out on the market, and can always give me the fastest service and support that’s most tailored to my needs. What’s more, they’re available on a retail schedule, which wheel builders may not be.

WHAT CAN I GET FOR MY BUDGET?

Following are my picks for strong multi-tasking wheels in each price range.

New, for around $300, you can get something from Babe’s Fiber Garden. These are consistent and reliable performers made from PVC, you can get similar accessories and in some cases make your own, and they’re all but indestructible. They’re a great value, and Nels Wiberg, their maker, is a great guy who stands by his products. There is a strong and vibrant community of Babe aficionados who can provide you with a lot of advice about these wheels. Babe’s is transitioning to its new owners as of the start of 2014, and extending its lineup as well.

For around $400, you can get a Fricke S-160. These are durable, rugged, very versatile, quiet, and low maintenance. By default, they come with a delta orifice, but a standard tube orifice is also available. If you don’t know what that means, don’t worry — you probably don’t care yet, and won’t until after you have some spinning miles on your odometer.

For around $500, you can choose from offerings from Ashford (the Honda Civic of the textile world — everyone has one, or has had one, so everyone knows how they work, you can always find a used one and you know you can sell yours used too), and Kromski. In addition to its line of traditionally-styled wheels, Kromski offers the Sonata ($600-700), a folding wheel with sealed bearings for lower maintenance (priced higher, see below) and Fantasia (in the $500 range, less unfinished), a very competitive entry-priced wheel with sealed bearings and a modern sliding hook flyer, allowing you to fine tune how you fill your bobbins. Similar flyers are available now for Ashford and Fricke, most Louet wheels, and have been standard on Majacraft and Lendrum for decades.

The Kromski wheels are the most affordable “traditional-looking” and decorative wheels around, so if a historical look is important to you, these are in my opinion your best options. In this same price range, if super-mega-extreme fine yarn (and I mean as in the kind of laceweight yarn you use for a wedding ring shawl) is not an immediate interest for you, consider bobbin lead offerings from Louet, which are modern in design, durable, and much loved by their owners for their extremely strong performance and ease of maintenance. These wheels, such as the S17, S10, and S75 are icons of the spinning world — especially the S10, which is quite possibly the most indestructible wheel ever built, even without factoring in Louet’s superb lifetime warranty.

Perhaps the strongest offering to come on the scene in this price range in the past decade is the Majacraft Pioneer — fully compatible with all Majacraft accessories except the accelerator head, the Pioneer is an exceptional value in a wheel you won’t outgrow soon. I’d rate this wheel as the most versatile all-around option around $600, although it faces very stiff competition from Schacht’s Ladybug wheel — in fact, the only thing that makes me pick the Pioneer over the Ladybug is that Majacraft has a more varied line of accessories. However, Schacht’s accessories are incredibly well-designed and tested by a wide range of spinners, and they work beautifully for an extremely broad range of wants.

For around $700, an extremely popular choice is the Lendrum folding wheel, or a Fricke that’s been equipped with level-wind flyer and bobbins. New in the past couple of years from Schacht, the Ladybug is a terrific lower-priced sibling to Schacht’s venerable flagship wheel, the Matchless. Capable of double drive and scotch tension, and with all bobbins, flyers, and accessories entirely compatible with the Matchless, the Ladybug is a winner for any spinner at any level. Also in this price range you can get Louet’s Julia, a wheel with all the benefits of Louet’s experience and warranty and everything, in scotch tension.

So what’s my number one recommendation, supposing you just have to order something right this minute, and you can’t go try anything out, and you want to get the best bang for the buck? Well, it still depends somewhat on you. All around, The Fricke S-160, which of all the teaching wheels and student wheels I’ve owned over the years, is the only one I’ve kept, and the one I find most of my students get the most mileage out of the fastest, and keep the longest. The number 2 spot goes to the Lendrum, followed closely by a tie between the Majacraft Pioneer or the Schacht Ladybug, with Louet’s Julia rounding out the top 5.

Supposing the same thing, but adding in a desire for historical appearance combined with modern conveniences like interchangeable bobbins and add-on flyers, I recommend the Kromski Minstrel or one of their larger Saxony-style wheels.

Supposing you’ve no idea if you’ll like having a wheel and you don’t know how long you’ll keep it and you want to be sure you can destash it quickly, get the ubiquitous Ashford Kiwi, Traveller, or Joy, or look for one of these used. For my money, Ashford’s best value is in its workhorse Traditional wheel — many spinners have had a Traddy and nothing else for decades and they’re easy to keep running and get fixed.

WHO MAKES SPINNING WHEELS?

Almost nobody, in real life. Seriously — I’d be willing to bet there are more people who have recorded albums of classical music played on the kazoo than there are people who make spinning wheels in the 21st century. Even the largest makers of spinning wheels have fewer employees than a typical small town fast food franchise, and mostly, they’re family operations. In other words, there really is a Barry Schacht, a Richard Ashford, a Jan Louet, a Gord Lendrum, and so forth. So no matter what brand you buy, you can feel confident that you’re buying from a small, independent business. It just might be one that has been small and independent for 40+ years. But even the “big names” are mom and pop operations.

Longer-standing spinning wheel makers will have dealer networks who can supply you with service and support, and generally produce in sufficient quantity to meet ongoing demand meaning there will be wheels in stock at those dealers. Since they’re production items, that also means buying things like more bobbins, add-ons, or replacement parts will tend to be easier. What’s more, since there will tend to be large numbers of wheels out there from longer-standing makers, you’re more likely to be able to find support online from the extended community of spinners who will know how your equipment is supposed to work just from you saying “It’s an Ashford Kiwi” or what have you. They’ll also have had the opportunity to work out the kinks in their designs, which can be a really big deal for a new spinner who doesn’t know yet if problems are encountered with the wheel, the fiber, or the technique.

This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take a chance on a new maker if the deal is right (or right in front of you). It just means that, if you’re hoping to buy a wheel and ask the internet how it should work, you might be happiest being able to say “I can’t figure out why my Schacht Ladybug feels stiff to treadle,” and hearing immediately from a bunch of people who also have Ladybugs in front of them.

WHY AREN’T SPINNING WHEELS CHEAPER?

There’s a lot of stuff on a spinning wheel that takes attention to detail in order to make it work well. Yes, these are very simple machines, but they’re machines that have to work seamlessly in concert with a human being, and that’s not easy. There are many moving parts and wheels need to be quiet enough that you can stand to sit at them, or that other people don’t hate sitting in the same room as you. These moving parts also need to handle wear and tear and sometimes be replaceable or interchangeable with others. At first blush, many people think “How on earth can these things start at $400 new?” and I really get that it’s a lot of money to put out for a new hobby, which is the big reason why it’s common for people to suggest learning to spin with a spindle first — they’ll almost always be cheaper than wheels. It’s also why I recommend looking for spinners near you as a first move.

WHAT ABOUT BUILDING MY OWN WHEEL?

Spinners on a budget often ask if I’d recommend building a spinning wheel, potentially using some of the low-cost plans out there, as a way to save money getting a working wheel. My answer is always no — not if your goal is to save money. There are lots of other great reasons to build a spinning wheel, which could be a tremendously enjoyable and rewarding project. However, it’s a tricky one to tackle without some knowledge of spinning, wheel types and wheel mechanics, and some mechanical aptitude as well as general building / carpentry / woodworking skill. Even master woodworkers and mechanics have made spinning wheels that don’t perform well. A lot goes into building a good wheel. So, I wouldn’t generally recommend building a wheel from scratch in order to learn to spin, any more than I would recommend building a bicycle from scratch to learn to ride a bicycle. It’s just very hard to know if you’re on the mark, and once learning, hard to know if a problem you’re having is you or the equipment. This doesn’t mean it’s not a great project to do — just that it may not be the ideal way to get your first spinning wheel, and most likely won’t save you anything in the way of money if you’re looking at a flyer wheel.

What if the wheel plan you’re looking at is for a driven spindle? In that case, you may be able to do it very cheaply indeed — but you’re also going to get something entirely different from a flyer wheel. That’s not bad, but what draws a lot of new spinners to look for their first flyer wheels is the search for a shallower learning curve to achieve productivity than the handspindle typically offers. I love spindle wheels, and would never say one doesn’t make a good first wheel (actually, my first wheel was an antique great wheel) — but you should know it’s a different experience than you may be thinking of when you’re a new spinner considering a first spinning wheel.

A FINAL NOTE

The specific wheels I’ve discussed are all generalist wheels, multi-taskers, and I’ve left out serious travel wheels, specialty wheels, driven spindles, and wheels priced over about $1000. Price ranges given figure for paying tax or shipping and possibly an extra bobbin or something of that nature. I’ll cover wheels upwards of $1000 at another time, but generally set that as a likely ceiling for a first wheel purchase. Links provided are to wheel manufacturers or reviewers, and not to vendors; I strongly recommend finding a local fiber shop if at all possible, and giving them your support as well as making use of them as a resource.

If you have questions or comments about any of these wheels, I’d love to hear them — please don’t hesitate to leave a comment and share your experiences, or ask about wheels not mentioned here.

55 thoughts on “Choosing Your First Spinning Wheel

  1. Thank you, Abby! It’s looking more and more like I’ll be in the market for a first wheel by the second half of this year (I’m thinking maybe my birthday or Xmas). I try to keep an eye on what you and other experienced spinners have to say about first wheels, but it’s fabulous to have advice and *explanation* in one place for me to bookmark!

  2. What a wonderful article on choosing a wheel!

    Can I please have your permission to reprint it in my Guild’s newsletter?

  3. Thanks so much for this post. It helped me make my decision purchasing my first wheel.

  4. Thanks so much for all of this information. I am planning on buying a wheel soon — and have had a recent disappointment after purchasing a ‘furniture wheel’, which has made me a little apprehensive about buying a wheel on my own! Luckily the wonderful woman who owns the local knitting store bought it as a disply item.

  5. Great article! As you are hoping for comments, I’ll add my opinion of the Mazurka as a first wheel. It was what I bought (there was a special offer at the moment when I finally wanted my wheel – and wanted it NOW): It’s a simple but nice wheel. The technology is traditional, but the wheel spins better than almost all my “antiques”! The small drive wheel has at first a tendency to reverse (you need to practice treadling, just treadling, at the beginning), and the wheel tips over if you step on it the wrong way (it’s not a bad as it sound – I coped in one evening, and ever since I’ve never had a problem with treadling any wheel). Once those two problems mastered, it’s a very nice wheel for medium to fine yarn (not so nice for serious laceweight – especially plying it – because the ratios only go up to 1:12 – possibly 1:16 in bobbin lead, flyer’s drag provides the brake). It’s quick to start and stop and take-up can be reduced to nearly nothing – very nice for mohair and angora. It’s biggest problem is that for plying bulky yarn you need to tighten the brake so much that the wheel becomes nearly impossible to treadle – the small, low-inertia drivewheel is a serious handicap there. But I think it makes a nice first wheel, a near-allrounder, later to be complemented by a bobbin lead for plying and bulky yarn (unless you want to specialize in laceweight – then the Polonaise is great). At worst, if you decide after a few weeks that you don’t really like spinning, you can always keep it as decoration – it’s simply beautiful (at least I think so). A serious warning, though: The wood used by the Kromskis is DELICATE! Those are NOT wheels to knock about!

  6. Abby, brilliant! This answers all the questions (and some I hadn’t thought of) that I was going to ask you via email. Thanks.

  7. Abby thank you so much for an informative article on what to consider in a spinning wheel. So many websites I went to were obviously promoting only the specific wheels that they sold. With your information in hand, I think I’ve narrowed my choice down and will be purchasing my wheel as a birthday present to myself this year.

  8. Thanks, Abby, for the very comprehensive review of choosing one’s first wheel! The information was extremely useful and I feel much more secure about going shopping for my first wheel now. 🙂

  9. Thanks so much for this wonderful article! I’ve been considering a wheel since I’ve fallen in love with spinning on my drop spindle. Unfortunately, I don’t have any fiber fairs, guilds, or shops near me to help me out. This really made all the terms much easier to understand and see how it all works. Thanks again.

  10. After trying out a number of wheels at the shop where I learned to spin, I selected the Fricke S-160 ST and am VERY happy with it as a beginner’s wheel that can go beyond beginner skills. I opted for the ST because I thought it gave me even more control of the wheel than the DT model.

    This is a simple, scotch tension wheel with almost nothing other than the scotch tension that needs to be adjusted. It also uses the delta orifice which eliminates the need for an orifice tool and makes it easy to spin any size/weight of yarn. The ST is one of the cheapest wheels available, and the DT isn’t much more. This allows the beginner to get a wheel to grow with at minimal cost. If it later turns out that you want a different style wheel, you will by then know enough about spinning to be able to pick out exact features that you want. Until then, the Fricke wheel should do a great job for you.

    I purchased the upright because the shop did not have a folding one in stock for me to compare. I would like to find or make some type of case to protect it during travel, and I’ve also considered some type of removable wheels for the bottom. It is very lightweight, so moving it around and carrying it isn’t a problem.

    I bought the wheel based on my own evaluation of it, but agree with what Abby has said about it in the blog article.

  11. Excellant overview. Thanks too to Rosanne. I am a relatively experienced spinner. Started on a double treadle Lendrum, but use a Majacraft Little Gem for most of my spinning. I am looking for a delta orafice wheel with a bigger bobbin and a wider ratio range without having to change anything but the position of the drive band. Sounds like the S-160 family should be looked at. Thanks again for your candor.

  12. I just got a spinning wheel that has K.U. 1978 059 Now I know it was made in 1978 But who made it or what does this mean I have looked all over the internet and whould like some help. Thank you

  13. fantastic article!!!!!! Thank you so much!

  14. Ahh, the Fricke! My first wheel and was purchased used from my instructor. Ugly as sin, but does a terrific job and is as rugged as you said. Seems that it takes a lot to break something and would be ideal for someone who had kids or critters knocking things over. Or someone who is as klutzy as I am. Big Big Bobbins too!
    My second wheel is the Pioneer. I tried a number of wheels, but due to financial issues I left the Golding sit. heehee Why the Pioneer? Smooth, sweet, Scotch tension, Big bobbins an it fits my aging anatomy. Did I mention smooth?? Also, I can easily add on and expand.
    For my needs and expectations in the future, I couldn’t be happier. Why should I buy a race car to drive to the local store for milk?

  15. …I ever told you, your my hero????

  16. I used your original article to steer me to a Fricke DT Folding. Boy, it’s a sweet wheel. It’s easy to treadle, and extremely versatile with all the different ratios. I really have enjoyed this wheel spinning everything from lace weight to bulky. I find I love the Delta orfice as well. It’s been a great entry level wheel and one I can’t see myself outgrowing anytime soon! Thanks for taking some of the confusion out of buying that first wheel!

  17. Oh my! We have the same project chair! Thanks for the great articles.

  18. Hi Abby,

    Could you please tell us which of your double-treadle wheels can easily be used with only one foot? I’m probably not the only one-footed spinner, and it’s always nice to have more options (I’m running out of wheels to lust after )

    Thanks! Klara

  19. I love your blog, I just happened to stumble across it and so far I love it.
    I’ve been a knitter for a little while now and had my grandma approach me to see if I could find out who to spin on an antique spinning wheel that was past down through our family. Still haven’t got the nerve to buy any fibre.
    But after reading this I’m worried that the spinning wheel might not have all its pieces.
    I was wondering if I sent you pictures would you be able to tell me if it’s all there?

  20. Helpful information. Is that a Sphynx in your lap?

  21. Have you ever tried a Jensen? I have a Tina II that I love.

    They’re right around $600, solid charry, huge bobbins and lots of ratios. I wish more people thought of them when shopping, they truly are fantastic!

  22. OMG Abby, the picture of you in your recliner and spinning has CHANGED MY LIFE! I am reletively new at this, and I have a used Louet S10 (which I love love love) and I have been sitting on the edge of the sofa, hunched over my wheel with two inches between my working hand and the orifice.

    Well! I saw your picture there and eased waaayyy back and relaxed. I can now spin for much longer periods of time. My back no longer hurts! My spinning is relaxing. It’s even eased the death grip I had on my fiber.

    Whew! I think I can actually spin up 4 ounces of top in a day or so without ending up hunched over and hobbling from back pain. This is awesome! Now I’m headed back to my wheel by the sofa to finish up my never ending 8 oz of Corriedale.

  23. Very informative article! I have an antique family spinning wheel, DS, probably from the late 1800’s that I would like to use. It has had missing parts replaced, and it now has four extra bobbins. The spinning wheel works well. I have tried it, have improved my performance, but have a long way to go to spin good yarn.The spin is much too tight. Since I am unsure that I am going to become a dedicated spinner, I would like to be able to spin on this wheel in order to see if I wish to purchase a new wheel. I’m unsure about the soundness of my reasoning on this matter. I don’t know how long I should give myself to improve on this wheel before I look at working on another wheel.

  24. Happened upon you and have enjoyed reading every word. I am certainly an elder that has always dreamed of spinning. So at this age I have thoughts of doing so if I can learn and thus I am reading all that I can find on the the subject. I appreciate hearing how different ones felt about the different brands of spinning wheels. This gives me something to think about. Thank you for the insight into spinning. M.L.

  25. I throughly enjoyed reading your article. It was a pleasure to read. I’m looking forward to your conclution of writting an article
    about serious travel wheels,specialty wheels and wheels priced over $700. When will it be posted?

  26. Two years ago I wrote that the Mazurka is not a wheel to knock about. Which is still true. But when I spinning under a market umbrella in a fine rain the other day it ocurred to me that on the whole the Mazurka is a lot more durable than I originally thought: I’m in my third year of dragging it around to spinning meetings and festivals, spinning outdoors in all sorts of weather conditions and the wheel hasn’t suffered at all. It just wants grease for the axle, oil for bobbins and flyer and occasionally a new driveband.

  27. Abby,
    You are so amazing. That’s just about the best overview that I have ever read and I’ve read a few!! Your reasoning is concrete and very easy to understand, even for the newest newbie. Thank you for being there for all of us.

  28. Dear Abby,

    Thank you for this article. I found it while looking for advice on how to keep my wheel from “going into reverse” while I am trying to treadle and spin forward. I have an Ashford single-drive Traditional wheel. Is this likely an issue of tension, oiling, treadling technique, or some combination?

    Thanks. I hope you (or another reader) can help!

  29. There is a Canadian/Saxony on this page that could be a twin of what I own, what make/brand is it?

    Thanks

  30. Thank you for a good article. Unfortunately it stopped just short of the wheels I wanted more info on, the +700$. Hope the next part will appear soon. 🙂

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  32. im a beginer spinner & i have a louet s10-but i don’t like it. i checked out the fricke dlbtred.wth all the attachments & the majacraft pioneer. i want a wheel that will grow wth me. i do not want to have to keep changing wheels.which of these two wheels would suit my purpose . i want to spin fine & coarse fibers. thanks for the info-joy

  33. Thanks for the article. It was very informative and helpful. I was at my local yarn shop to look at wheels, and I’m trying to decide between the Ashford Joy and the Ladybug.

  34. Thanks so much! Scotch tension was as clear as mud before I decided to check your article out again. I am out to learn with a loaner Wee Peggy that’s come to me sans drive band or tension brake. It’s all making more sense. Also, I wasn’t sure what to think about Pioneers for all the hype on the Rose & Suzies… V. grateful over here!

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  39. I have a I think old spinning wheel that was donated to our charity. It has a two piece solid 2 groove wheel for the top.

    It is three legged and has about three spindles on top. We are trying to find its value and make. I could send you a picture or two if that would help.

  40. If you update your article, you might want to include the Heavenly Handspinning wheels. Very affordable, and if one purchased one and didn’t care for it, one should be able to resell it without much sacrifice in price. heavenlyhandspinning.com. They even have a nice little electric spinner.

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  43. Hi Abby, I also have a twin of your canadian saxony with 9 spokes. Do you know the year and make? Tks

  44. I worked at a restoration (Hale Farm and Village) in the 1960’s and early 70’s and learned to repair antique wheels. i had learned to spin as a child. That said, I would not recommend learning on an antique wheel if you can get one of the newer, easier to maintain and spin on wheels. A really good restoration can cost a lot, more than a new wheel. Most of the old wheels are for spinning very fine wool or linen. While new flyers and bobbins can be made, again the cost can be high. If you have a wheel in pretty decent shape and a skilled craftsperson in the family or a friend who can do the work properly, the cost is not so daunting. I am fixing a friend’s wheel now. The hecks, or hooks, on the flyer need to be replaced for our friend to spin wool on it, which is her desire. It still will not be as easy as my Wife’s Ashford. And wheels like the Louet are easier for beginners to get started on.. As in many skills, it will pay you to learn from a friend or guild and then actually take the advice of the people you are working with!

  45. Hi Abby,
    Loved your article, and thought I would ask your opinion of the Lendrum vs. the Rose. My main concerns are comfort for those marathon spinning sessions, and durability; will the Lendrum last for decades? I had a Rose for 4 months, but am returning it because of a defect, and am thinking about replacing it with a Lendrum. The cost of (wood!) bobbins for the Rose surprised me, and accessories.
    Thanks for your time and input!
    cheers,
    Leah

  46. I loved reading this article about advice for a beginning wheel. I am here to ask you if you could write a similar article abut how to choose a chakra to begin with?

  47. I have really been obsessed by the fiber world. When I was a child visiting a family in PA. I saw a spinning wheel in action. I am a knitter at the intermediate/advance level. Seeing the dying tutorials and fiber spinning got to me..so in turn I have decided to stay away from the”madness” lol. But I will always enjoy my knitting…and stay away. Maybe a drop spindle and mechanics is not really for me…

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  49. This is the most comprehensive and easily understood coverage of the subject I have every come across. Thank you so much! Very useful.

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  51. Hi Abby,
    Thanks for such an in depth and clear article on purchasing a first spinning wheel. I was in such confusion about what kind of wheel to purchase until I read your blog. I have ordered the Fircke S-160 with confidence that it will perform smoothly and hopefully won’t have too much trouble learning to spin. I ordered it from a wool/yarn merchant that will include a beginner package with the wheel.
    Needless to say I am looking forward to receiving my new “baby”.
    Thanks again for such a wonderful article.

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  53. Thanks for this article! I was looking for a new all around wheel and I didn’t know Fricke made one. I have one now and I’m loving it! It’s so smooth to treadle and you’re absolutely right that it’s versatile. I’ve owned some high end wheels that were more beautiful to look at but weren’t as useful as tools, which is what a spinning wheel is.

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